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(6x,4)(0,2x)
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3 ball David's dilemma

Capacity

3

Period

4

Full period

8

Orbits

2

Composition

Prime

States

(1,1)(0,1) (6x,4)
(0,1)(0,1)(0,1) (0,2x)

Ladder diagram

6x402x

Stack notation

(3x,3)(0,1x)

Anagrams

(6x,0)(4,2x) (time-reverse)

 

(8x,6)(0,2x)
4 David's dilemma 200
4 ball David's dilemma

Capacity

4

Period

4

Full period

16

Orbits

1

Composition

Prime

States

(1,1)(0,1)(0,1) (8x,6)
(0,1)(0,1)(0,1)(0,1) (0,2x)

Ladder diagram

8x602x

Stack notation

(4x,4)(0,1x)

Anagrams

(8x,2x)(6,0) (time-reverse)

 

(ax,8)(0,2x)
5 David's dilemma 200
5 ball David's dilemma

Capacity

5

Period

4

Full period

24

Orbits

2

Composition

Prime

States

(1,1)(0,1)(0,1)(0,1) (ax,8)
(0,1)(0,1)(0,1)(0,1)(0,1) (0,2x)

Ladder diagram

Ax802x

Stack notation

(5x,5)(0,1x)

Anagrams

(ax,0)(8,2x) (time-reverse)

 David's dilemma is an asymmetrical synchronous pattern invented by David Thomas.

In this pattern one hand makes a crossing throw while the other hand makes a lower non-crossing throw (like in the siteswap (6x,4)*, but always done on the same side of the pattern), and then the hand that makes the lower throws passes an object back over to the hand that makes the higher throws (like in a shower pattern).

The 3 ball pattern is (6x,4)(0,2x) in siteswap notation. Two objects are showered around a third object, which stays on the catching hand's side of the pattern.

David's dilemma starts in the same state as a synchronous shower, so you can transition directly between the two patterns.

3 ball transition animation
4 ball transition animation
5 ball transition animation

Siteswap exercisesEdit

You can use these exercises to practice the same kinds of throws that are done in this pattern, before you learn the full pattern.

Some of the siteswaps listed below are shortened to leave out parts where you’re not doing anything. Click on them to see animations of the exercises.

You should practice doing these starting with your right hand and with your left hand, so that you will be able to do the pattern on either side.

3 ball David's dilemma:

Prerequisites: 3 ball shower

Exercises to prepare for (6x,4)(0,2x):

4 ball David's dilemma:

Prerequisites: 4 ball shower, 3 ball David's dilemma

Exercises to prepare for (8x,6)(0,2x):

5 ball David's dilemma:

Prerequisites: 5 ball shower, 4 ball David's dilemma

Exercises to prepare for (ax,8)(0,2x):

VariationsEdit

Juggling Tutorial David's Dilemma02:45

Juggling Tutorial David's Dilemma

3 ball David's dilemma tutorial

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